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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Aug 12, 2009 7:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

So, the sky is falling. Spacedface agrees for one brief shining moment with Noisecollector. Mandojammer steps in with a plausible doomsday scenario. Most all are in agreement regarding the short term future of energy, another shock to the system. All sides nod heads, we are in trouble. Everybody has a hard-on looking for a place to put it. Some say Wall Street, some still say George Bush, some think that we're headed for socialism.

It don't matter to me. The fixations of the left and right are parlor games compared to the shit that's still in it's infancy that will leave us a third world country. So play your petty games and blame your petty blames. It's all talk, the high road and the low road both lead to hell.

Assume for a moment that there's just a nugget of truth regarding the impact of all the news you see, read and hear. Bilderberg conspiracy, fucking nuts...but find the kernel of truth and place it next to the kernel of truth you find while watching the Chinese laugh at Timothy Geitner. Add what you know about the Chinese to what you've learned about NAFTA. Put that together with the environmental regulatory climate in this country and the obvious de-industrialization that's occurred over that last 30 years. Check out the number of unemployed Americans as fact and compare that to forecasts of recovery in various sectors of the economy. Pile on the trillion dollars of debt that we, the people, agreed to give our government. Let's not forget the trillions in debt exposure we have to a faltering Medicare and Social Security system...the politicians are way too scared to add that in with their current spending. Let's not forget the trillions lost in IRA's by folks nearing retirement age. Then, thank you Mando, the oil is fixing to run out.

Mr. Earl sees two or three ways to go. First, local militia, arm thyself in preparation for the end game. Grow your own, get off the grid, welcome your guests with barbed wire. Green living, camouflage green.

Second. Close to the first. Get out, go luddite in a third world country. Trade your Jeep for a burro. Take your remaining dollars and change them in for lotsa pesos. Smoke dope for an eternity in a distant land. Let the modernists scrap over the carcasses of dinosaurs, you've got bigger fish to fry, literally.

Finally, do nothing, it's the American way to be led blindly into the bright future. This is Rome, and baby, Rome is burning. Do you believe that the government is going to write off the trillions of dollars of ours we have authorized them to spend? If they can't get it back from taxes, how will they? Prosperity? Never in the history of the world has any person, company or government spent it's way into prosperity. Never. Nor can they tax their way into it. Since we no longer manufacture much of anything where do jobs come from in the "great recovery?" McDonalds? Call centers for Indian credit card companies? Car dealerships?

We have, at our peril, ignored the fact that this country prospered in a market based economy. Even when the market was so convoluted, it worked. It came to root out worthless paper for what it was. It identified the flaws in the sub prime mortgage fiasco. Ultimately when the bills came due, it was a merciless and all knowing arbiter of fraud and pinpointed those that had leveraged themselves too far out on a limb to crawl back to safety. Despite any checks and balances, or lack thereof, the marketplace is all seeing.

So, as the printing presses have ramped up, the banks have returned to profit, the market goes up, and this little microcosm of our world seems just a little cheery. When we think we have it licked, the market will let the other shoe drop by showing us that our vision of success was just a little inflated. Then there will be no recourse.

So I ask all you forumites, Yucatan or Baja? AR-15 or Kalashnikov?



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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Aug 12, 2009 12:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Looks Like EBP watched Crash Course

Neither Baja or Yucatan.

400 acres of unincorporated land in Middle Tennessee if we need to bug out. Ridge tops, passive solar in place. House built into the hillside, bermed, never gets above 80 in the house in the summer or below 50 in the winter. ~100 acres cleared and arable. ~200 acres heavily wooded, ~100 acres transition cover.

6 wells, solar pumps, hand pump backup. Two 20,000 gallon cisterns.

600 meter unobstructed fields of fire coverage of both approaches to the house. Ranged and metered.

One Barrett M82A1 BMG covering the road - it will take out a vehicle.

One CheyTac .338 Lapua backing up the Barrett.

http://www.cheytac.com/Products/338Lapuaaluminummodularstockimg.asp

Two Marlin 338MXLRs, one Marlin .444, for game.

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/bigbore/444.asp

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/308MarlinExpress/338MXLR.asp

Six Bushmaster M4 Carbine A3s in the safe in the house.

Various and sundry representatives from the families of Sig Sauer, Heckler & Koch and Springfield Armory 1911.

And a still.

Don't screw with my gardens. Buy gold and silver, establish a seed bank and learn how to permaculture.

Almost forgot - most of you cretins would be welcome without question. Especially if you bring several tons of barley, some peat bricks and your favorite scotch whisky recipe.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 12, 2009 12:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Looks Like EBP watched Crash Course

I like the still part.

The rest is a little scary.

But, I can appreciate the sentiment.

I only need a small space for my slightly used podium.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 12, 2009 7:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Looks Like EBP watched Crash Course

And a coat rack for your smoking jacket.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Aug 12, 2009 1:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Looks Like EBP watched Crash Course

You already know what group you're in.

But bring the podium anyway, I get the sense that Dire is short and will need to stand on something at the dinner table.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 12, 2009 1:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Looks Like EBP watched Crash Course

Ha--yep, and with married life well underway, I suspect he's getting shorter every day!

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Aug 12, 2009 3:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Looks Like EBP watched Crash Course

"Don't need a weatherman to tell which way the wind blows."

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Poster: cush212 Date: Aug 12, 2009 5:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Looks Like EBP watched Crash Course

Amen Brother... Costa Rica sounds nice to me. Sorry, no ak,s or kalasnikovs for me. I'm a 1911/Scout rifle guy meself...

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Poster: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 Date: Aug 12, 2009 5:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Looks Like EBP watched Crash Course

HI CUSH :) i thought you were 1910 fruit gum co. lol :) peace brother its been awhile!!~ hows berkely??http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksR0si3ZloY enjoy :) >wwd

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 12, 2009 7:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Looks Like EBP watched Crash Course

But that email address ain't gonna do shit for me, can we establish a secret knock or something? I can make smoke signals and hold my own up to about 50 yards without a scope, I'll bring the seeds (my own hybrid strain that is pretty hardy in stressful conditions).

I can eat the neighbors until I get up there.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Aug 13, 2009 5:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Happy Retirement Mr. Earl

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 12, 2009 10:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Whether it's the breakroom I share with blue collar union workers who are anti government unless the person has an R next to their name ( and too ignorant to know where they got their union that allows them to keep their job even when some of them don't work ) or even here at the archive, the black helicopter people are everywhere!

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 12, 2009 10:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

a union worker who is anti-government. now THAT is funny!!! kinda like cotton candy that is anti-sugar. they need their heads examined.

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 12, 2009 10:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

You'd crack up revolted if you knew that in France ,the gverment itself finances the workers unions officially with taxepayers money as as to unoffically cotrol them . And it grates on the nerves of millions of us here to find out there are always bugging us with strikes when it's time to go on vacation ,time to go to work ,and there will be no trains ,no buses ,no planes ,no subway fontionning !

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 12, 2009 11:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

the unions here have much of the government totally in their pockets. many unions are a total disgrace and are part of the reason our economy is where it is. (i know many will disagree - especially those who are union workers). they used to be necessary, but now are a blight on our country - a cancer which must be removed or at minimum treated.

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 12, 2009 11:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

In France,it's the other way around :goverment has the unions in their control,at taxepayers expense,and the public is left with year around strikes,so small business loose it all,and it eliminate the competition,and people loose their jobs having to search for another one less well paid ,and that suits predators bosses, yes ?

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 12, 2009 11:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

sure does!

isnt it lovely the way the world works? and all the blinded masses do is elect more crooks, thieves, liars, and soulless vermin.

Mr. Earl is right - cash out, trade the truck for a burro, and live off the land. i think i could handle that as long as I have my books of poetry, some notebooks, and some pens. (and of course, my lovely wife and daughters)

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 12, 2009 12:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

a non-union trust fund to support the same....

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 12, 2009 12:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

When you have a real trust fund that can also support me,let me know !

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 12, 2009 6:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Not to mention along with our government and some foreign interests, they now own GM... glad I was a ford guy before I became a nissan guy...

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 12, 2009 7:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

i still am driving a GM - however, i do have to say it is one of the vehicles that i have owned that has given me virtually no problems (then again, i had a ford that gave me no problems, so just ignore what i am saying)

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 12, 2009 2:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

What do you think would happen if we DIDN'T have them though Dire? Trust me, I have a college deree and practically make the same wage as toilet plungers who sit around and bitch and never try to go out of their way to help someone and they get automatic raises. Even though i'm not union, seems the threat helps make employers keep the rest of our wages competitive too

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 12, 2009 3:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

totally agree that they were a good thing - quite necessary due to the Henry Fords of the world. However,they have gotten WAY out of hand. granted this is not in every single union - but i'll take $50/hour, full benes, and 4wks vacation any day of the week for pushing A SINGLE BUTTON (and yes, that is a sad fact)

your point is well taken though JOTS - but in this day and age, the market just CANNOT support the union wage (in many cases, not all)

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 12, 2009 7:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Look at the USPS and how much they pay janitors... seriously.... it's fucking crazy. No wonder they are going bankrupt... besides email and fedex....

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 16, 2009 2:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

They could never pay me enough before I even think about such jobs . But I know it has to be done and those who do it MUST ged paid good wages .

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 12, 2009 7:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

in total agreement. when the employees are making more than the company that is paying them - generally speaking, there is a problem.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 12, 2009 3:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

" the market just CANNOT support the union wage (in many cases, not all) "

sorry bro but I have to call bullshit on that one. Every CEO gets bonuses and golden parachutes even when they tank a company and the masses want to defend that these companies can't afford it? This COuntry has out greeded itself and the masters who make the rules are the ones who have brainwashed the masses into doing their bidding. How else can people justify fighting against their own intersts?

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 12, 2009 7:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

whether you call bullshit or not, the facts are the facts - unions, right now, are destroying vast expanses of corporations - not that the unions are the only reason of course, but are certainly a major culprit - it is, however, your right to disagree.


a few golden parachutes here and there are basically a drop in the bucket when compared to the union coffers, their wage greed, and absolute unwillingness to be realistic. i am not condoning the actions of some ceo's, but to compare that to the union problem is a bit misguided and naive on your part.

This post was modified by direwolf0701 on 2009-08-13 02:43:00

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 13, 2009 8:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

niave? Hardly. I think it is you that is niave ny friend. AND not all unions are bad either. I'll take a journeyman electrician over some Joe F'n schmoe who learned all bout lectricity from back on the farm.

I understand what you're saying but then I also see they just don't always have the power you seem to think. My ex brother in law was a union railroad mechanic. About a decade ago they were talking about striking because the reailroad gave this sweet medical package to upper and middle management and the workers didn't get close to the same. Guess what happened - NOTHING. Or the local power line workers, I forgot what they were asking for but it was very reasonable and the power company spent BANK in glossy flyers etc. to fight it. Just know that these people you are defending will sell your ass out in a second.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 13, 2009 9:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

I dont think i said ALL unions are bad (i thought i wrote that clarification, but i dont remember now so could be wrong). And I by no means wish to defend all big corporations. I am simply being argumentative, even though i do agree that i am a bit anti-union (on a certain level).

i would have thought you knew me by now and my philosophy that arguing for the sake of arguing can be a form of entertainment. and using hyperbolic statements is just a fun way to ratchet up the fun factor a bit.

anyways.......

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 13, 2009 10:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Go on my friend,your arguments have a lot more style than the filthy mouth NC!

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 13, 2009 10:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

relax will you? I'm not all bent out of shape. Just a friendly discussion that I don't think I started but always have to chime in just like yourself. Trust me, I deal with extreme righties everyday up here, I can take it.

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 13, 2009 11:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Believe it or not,here I am snobbed at as being an extreme whitty because I vote Jen-Marie Le Pen to stop invasion of millions more immigratios that even the most relax deadhead would't want near his doorstep .In the sixties ,the same sort of snobs though I was too extreme lefty anarchist .If I was rich,they would only say I am an interesting original personality . I trust my onw opinions and I can also change opinions when I think it is relevent to do so . After all no one is perfect knowing it all on all subjects otherwise thy'd be nothing new to learn about,yes ?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 25, 2009 8:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Mentos commercial!

That is where you escaped from!

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 25, 2009 9:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mentos commercial!

Pass the diet coke and stand well clear!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 13, 2009 10:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

I won't try to reason with JOTS because it's like trying to screw a tadpole but be sure to bring up the fact that labor unions (which I was once part of) were created before labor laws were created to address the grievances brought by said union.

Child labor, overtime, etc... all protected by law now. So now they hold employers hostage and ship jobs overseas...

Just like civil rights movement, it was valid before CIVIL RIGHTS LAWS? Get it? You cannot lynch a black person anymore, you go to jail for murder, get it? You cannot discriminate against someone (unless they are a white male) you will get sued. The laws were created thanks to the original good intentions of these movements that like everything else has turned into a business, then a racket.

Women's suffrage movement is no longer needed so why are these other leeches still extorting us? They need this strife to be in business. If they did their jobs they would eliminate the need for themselves... oh wait that already happened.

Boycott the unions, boycott these fools who exploint the worst side of humanity for their own gains.

If they cannot "get it" and listen to reason, we may have to create a new country. I have tried to reason with people on this but they do not listen. They just call you racist and say bush was hitler and other empty talking points.

Who needs them?

PS we were all agreeing for awhile before he went off the deepend and started with personal insults so I will never directly address him again. If he is an old fart, he sure acts like a child.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 13, 2009 10:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

"They need this strife to be in business."

you could not be more correct in that assessment NC. it should be self-evident, and i could not have said it more succinctly myself.

Unions are HUUUUUUGE business!!

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 13, 2009 10:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

" overtime, etc... all protected by law now. So now they hold employers hostage and ship jobs overseas... "

Actually if you look at right to work State law you might find that not everything is as protected as you think. And some of the jobs sold overseas are non union jobs because it's easier. I didn't make any personal attacks either, Dire called me Niave and I stated my opion that I thought that he was.

I'm glad you're not going to respond to me. I'll do the same.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 14, 2009 9:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Perhaps I was a bit harsh, I will take back my childish comment about you being childish... two wrongs don't make a right.

I live in a right to work state, there are low corporate taxes and little union representation. That is why companies come to Florida, aside from the tax advantages.

Funny, we have no state income tax, few unions, few tollbooths, and even with lots of illegal immigrants; we are still somehow able to be less broke than CA.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 14, 2009 11:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

funny our two States have a lot in common. Except my State has oil revenue and recieves a ton of Federal money. I don't think it has anything to do with our labor laws in our case why we're so far escaping this mess.

I'm glad we're being civil.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Aug 12, 2009 8:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

"the facts are the facts - unions, right now, are destroying vast expanses of corporations - not that the unions are the only reason of course, but are certainly a major culprit"

That's silly. Reaganite propaganda most likely.

For example, the myth of the $70/hr GM worker, which included management, the retired and all benefits. See http://mediamatters.org/columns/200811250012?f=h_column.

One little item also helps: General Motors spent $4400 per car on advertising, while Toyota spent $1100. Instead of killing the electric car they should have made green car and cleaned up in many ways all over the world.

Now why wouldn't Detroit do that?

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 12, 2009 9:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

"That's silly. Reaganite propaganda most likely."


dont bury your head in the sand to ignore the stark reality.

(no offense intended, btw)

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Poster: spacedface Date: Aug 12, 2009 10:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

>>"That's silly. Reaganite propaganda most likely."


dont bury your head in the sand to ignore the stark reality.>>>

A nice way to support claims is to throw in some illustrative facts or examples. It appears you have none.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 12, 2009 10:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

being omnipotent, i find it difficult playing with others

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 13, 2009 7:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Being impotent hinders that as well

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 13, 2009 9:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

lol !!

(your words speak truth Mr. NC)

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 14, 2009 9:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Call me Senator NC. I have had a lot of plastic surgery and conflicts of interest to get where I am.

Thank you,

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Poster: billydlions Date: Aug 12, 2009 4:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Dont you think unions have become exactly what they were supposed to fight against? They've become so powerful that they can run a company in to the ground. It's practically impossible to fire the most incompetent employees. They want to eliminate secret ballots so that they can intimidate people to vote a certain way. I'll take my chances with a non-union job. Why? Because I will work harder than the guy next to me and deserve to be compensated for that. And if there's someone who can do a better job, then I guess I'll have to move on, but I'll take my chances.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 12, 2009 5:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

sure absolutely. I see incompentance being rewarded all the time. Unfortunatley the other side of the coin is some ( not all ) companies bring this on themselves too. Look at Walmart. They pretend the only way they can have cheap prices is by paying low wages and no benefits and yet the owners of the company are BILLIONAIRES several of them several times over. Or companies who are constantly cutting at the bottom but never at the top. All I'm saying is that alot of companies greed themselves into the place where workers have to organize for job security and yes it then turns into what you describe. I don't know what you do but most people can be disposed of at anytime, sold out for a dime cheaper if they decide. Their perogative sure, I just think it's s shame. Whether you hate Michael Moore or not theres a great quote in the movie the " Big One" where he asked this exec if he was a Billionaire and then he says " well couldn't you be a half a Billionaire"?

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Poster: billydlions Date: Aug 12, 2009 6:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

The only problem with your logic JOTS is that they are billionaires because of stock appreciation, not from salary. Sam Walton, Bill Gates, etc probably never had salaries higher than any elite athlete. On top of that many employees became wealthy from the stock, even ones who never made more than 30-50k/yr. I dont disagree with all of your thoughts though...I do not like the pay for incompetence either. We really need to find a way to restructure corporate boards which are filled with cronies who rubber stamp everything for each other. That's where we need real change.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 12, 2009 9:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

I don't think my logic is flawed. If companies treat their employees good then production goes up and the feeling that they need to organize would go down. Therefore there would be no strangleholds as it should be. Everybody would win except like what I quoted the CEO's would have to settle for being half Billionaires. I'm not saying that any mandate or law to do that would ever work, I'm just saying it's a shame they don't so it on their own.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 12, 2009 6:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Don't you ever talk about the band?

But seriously I work with a guy who passed out on the floor in the basement of Sam Walton's house. He is a down home shoot it and eat it kinda guy apparently...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 12, 2009 7:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Huh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPc8wg_NMf8

http://www.onlylyrics.com/hits.php?grid=5&;id=1034380
Come on children
You're acting like children
Every generation thinks
its the end of the world

And all ya fat followers
Get fit fast
Every generation thinks it's the last
thinks its the end of the world

Yes dream down a well
There's a lone heavy hell
I don't care anymore
I don't care anymore
It's a feeling we transcend
We're here at the end
I don't care anymore
I don't care anymore
You never know

Come on kids
You're acting like children
Act your age
Put back the black metals and pearls
All ya sword-swallowers pull yourselves together
Every generation thinks its the worst
Thinks it's the end of the world

It's a secret I can't tell
There's a wish down a well
I don't care anymore
I don't care anymore
It's a long heavy hell
Super-size it by 10
I don't care anymore
I don't care anymore
You never know
You never know

It's a dear to transcend
Everyone here, at the end

I don't care anymore
I don't care anymore
I don't care anymore
I don't care anymore
You never know

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 12, 2009 8:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Huh?

it WILL, however, truly be the end of the world when the Cubs win a world series - man, pedro didnt look great, and they still couldnt score (much)

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 12, 2009 9:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Huh?

Dang! That tune actually means something to me now. Thanks BD. I've only been hearing the chorus

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 12, 2009 10:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Huh?

And I bet you'll appreciate this news:

The Meat Puppets Confirm Tour, Red Rocks with Ween

Alternative rock trio the Meat Puppets will open its fall tour with a pair of early September co-headlining dates alongside Ween at the Pine Mountain Amphitheatre in Flagstaff, AZ and the Red Rocks Amphitheatre in Morrison, CO. The band will be touring in support of their twelfth and latest studio album Sewn Together, a follow up to their 2007 reunion album, Rise to Your Knees.

Following the two select dates with Ween, the Meat Puppets will tour heavily through the end of September with Athens, Georgia’s Dead Confederate. Dates with the Dead Confederate include September 17 at the Belly Up in San Diego, the Wonder Ballroom in Portland, Oregon on September 22, and Boulder, Colorado’s Fox Theatre for the tour closer on September 26. The Meat Puppet’s will hit the road again for a busy month of November featuring a three night run at Schubas in Chicago and six show run in the Northeast culminating at Philadelphia’s World Café on Nov 28.

More new Wilco:

I'll go, I'll go, I'll go, I'll go for you
I'll fight, I'll fight, I'll fight, I'll fight for you
I'll kill, I'll kill, I'll kill, I'll kill for you
I will, I will, I will

I'll go,I'll go, I'll go, I'll go for you
I'll fight, I'll fight, I'll fight, I'll fight for you
I'll die, I'll die, I'll die, I'll die for you
I will, I will, I will

And if I die
I'll die
I'll die alone on some
Forgotten hill
Abandoned by the mill
All my blood will
Spring and spill
I'll thrash the air and then be still

You'll wait
With the star from a dream
And know that I am gone
You'll feel it in your heart
But not for very long
You'll rise each day as planed
Your will is your command
And stand each Sunday
A hymnal steady in your hand
You'll sing to yourself
The rising-falling melody
That you could never read
Without the choirs' lead
Still alone, and lost in deep
And your soul will not be free

I will go , I will go, I will go
And in wars waters
I will wade
And I will know
If I remorse or regret
The fairness of our trade
For you to live
I took your place
A deal was made
And I was paid
And the goal as I was told
Was a place where my body could be laid
And we will steal your life
And die old
In better homes surrounded
By your peers
Without suffering or fear
Grandchildren far and near
And none will shed a tear
For the love no longer here

I'll go, I'll go, I'll go, I'll go for you
I will
I'll fight, I'll fight,I'll fight, I'll fight for you
I will, I will, I will
I'll kill, I'll kill, I'll kill, I'll kill for you
I will
I'll die, I'll die, I'll die, I'll die for you
I will, I will, I will

And if I die
I'll die
I'll die alone like Jesus
On a cross
My faith cannot by tossed
And my life will not be lost
If my love comes across

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 13, 2009 8:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Huh?

I wish Ween would come back up here. From what I hear they're too strung out to travel this far anymore

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 13, 2009 12:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Huh?

If this Vishnou Y saw th other day asked me to trust him,'cause he knew wher to find my gardens,I'd go with Him and never look back !

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Poster: spacedface Date: Aug 12, 2009 3:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Why do you think they do little to stop illegal except yell on TV -- illegals can't be unionized, don't get health care or any benefits, and will take any job they can get.

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 13, 2009 1:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

I went to america legally,then because of my opinions the creepos made me an illegal status,with no respect for my rights about freedom of speech.It got vicious to the point I'd be better off gone .Smart decision as later after 2001,it got to be a hassle for many born foreigners,worse than ever

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 12, 2009 3:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

absolutely! Angry right wingers love to demonize illegals that come here instead of looking at the reality of WHY they do. As usual mad at the wrong people

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Aug 12, 2009 3:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Great observation JOTS.

Very telling that both sides of the aisle exploit illegals to forward their specific agendas.

Sad freakin' commentary on us if you ask me as we keep the Idiocracy in DC in place.

And still the illegals come.

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 13, 2009 1:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Strange that when it 's about policiens and goverments,there are allsame clones and clows , this world over !

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 12, 2009 7:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

1. Legalize the weed. Hit the drug cartels in the pockets. Divert the mexican shwag bud leakage from our circular model to legitimate cash crops in mexico, drive demand back across the border.

2. Defend said border with troops trying to save a sinking balsa wood boat in the middle east with elmers glue and tooth picks. Let the people who don't seem to appreciate democracy fight for it themselves if they want it.

3. Make welfare workers take the low paying jobs created by the illegals returning home and give them free education to learn a trade. Our own poor people are the only ones who suffer (if we stopped paying them to sit home). You have to admit you know someone who is not really handicapped or unemployable that collects free money and food... be honest.

Many problems solved? Unless I am missing something...

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Poster: spacedface Date: Aug 12, 2009 8:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

>>You have to admit you know someone who is not really handicapped or unemployable that collects free money and food... be honest.>>

How long does welfare last? It's a pittance too if I remember the stories right.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Aug 12, 2009 8:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Welfare is a pittance -- not that it's a good system as is.

The real action is *corporate welfare* where billions and trillions are spent on bailouts, tax loopholes and incentives and market supports, useless weapons systems, and other pork.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 12, 2009 8:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

i need a freakin bailout! where do I apply for one of them guvment freebies :)

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 13, 2009 8:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

" You have to admit you know someone who is not really handicapped or unemployable that collects free money and food... be honest."

yeah, my ex wife. We have 50/50 legal and physical custody of the kids and I STILL have to pay her and yet she can afford to spoil them ( buy them every movie and video game that comes out, I can't even treat them to a movie they haven't already seen )because her husband makes bank.

Me? I've never taken a dime of assistance for anything. I'm not knocking anyone that has, personally I think we're too wealthy a society to let people starve. I've never understood unemployment either, I've always been able to find a job.

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Poster: cush212 Date: Aug 12, 2009 4:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

What's a "fontionning"?

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 16, 2009 1:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

To answer the question asked :fonctionning ,as in working . When unions are on strikes in France they bug us all, and know it !bastards allway choose strikes when people want to go to work, in Paris,strikes all over France when people need a break vacation,and no planes,buses,rails nor subways fonctionne A blackmail situation to allways get more pay and more undues priviledges Year around it goes on for decades ,AND they are paid by taxepayers,these stikes .Most unfair !!!

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Aug 13, 2009 5:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

I guess you do not live in NY

Here in BigApple-land the Unions are firmly behind our courageous Democrats!!!





And, yes the 'courageous' was typed with tongue firmly in cheek

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 12, 2009 10:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

i don't want any damn socialized medicine or the us govt forcing senior citizens to have abortions! I say get rid of medicare and v.a. hospitals NOW.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 12, 2009 12:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

this entire thread is an abortion. shoulda worn a friggin condom

;-P

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 12, 2009 7:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

At least we can laugh as our species is exterminated on the backs of small green donkeys as we smoke mexican reefer and read french poetry.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 12, 2009 10:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

sittin in the saddle, quoting Baudelaire, and puffin on ye olde pipe - excellent plan my friend ;)

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 12, 2009 10:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

check this one out. One of the local right wing whackjobs up here said that the main reason health insurance is so expensive is because that the Federal Govt. mandates they have to cover everything even elective surgery and even included botox. I emailed and asked if he could provide me facts as my insurance doesn't cover everything. Of cours I wont get a response.

meanwhile, watch out for those Socialists people!

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 12, 2009 11:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

No,no,no ! Socialized medecine is about granting you decent standards medicatio and life-saving surgery,for all .To get your face lift,viagra,or butox, you have to have also a private assurance,or go to india to have it done ,such as for getting costly dental work .

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 12, 2009 7:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

As usual you spit on earls spirit of unity against the wrongs of both sides and resort to name calling. I hope guns are only held by criminals where you live. Now tell us about a 1973 SBD.

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED IN MY BOMB SHELTER

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 12, 2009 10:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Socialized medecine saved my life so we can still talk today .I didn't know that anywhere on earth,thre were old seniors forced into having abortions,even in uptight america! As for abortion rights,it's always better than having a starving kid in your arms,selfish,heartless meany !

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 12, 2009 12:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

That was a real set-up there skies...be careful.

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 12, 2009 12:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

This phrase is not clear enough for me,but Itrust you can explain mre about what to be careful about ? Do please tell me,Guillaume Tell

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 12, 2009 12:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

It was the comment "...saved my life so we can talk today..."

Get it?

Point being, those that might see the humor in the phrase would say:

"That is the PROBLEM...you are alive today giving us grief"

Do I really have to splain it, or are you successfully jerking my chaing for the fourth day in a row?

Rob would tell you I am dumber than dirt, so it ain't no great accomplishment to embarrass the Prime Minister.

Seriously.

Have you seen how I spell?

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 12, 2009 3:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Euh...Did I get it now? ME,ME,ME,I am the problem I AM alive still now? That is a cop out meaning it would be more confortable To moan without interuption and not facing up to the real thing when It talks back .THey are so many griefers who 'd be relieved to never hear me speak again !!! Tough luck,you deadheads chould not have play with the fires,inventing games on computers Just to keep talking together . NA!!!

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 12, 2009 2:21pm
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You know why I really like you,Guillaume Tell? You remind me about Grateful Dead songs:I like the sounds oit but i don't understand much the meanings of what you say!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 12, 2009 4:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

That is quite the complement, skies! I humbly accept it on behalf of all Hunter wannabes the world round!

China Cat Sunflower, the song elb and I were speaking of earlier is a perfect example: the words aren't transparent, but they sure sound nice!

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 12, 2009 2:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

In this at least, you are not alone...

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 12, 2009 1:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

"Rob would tell you I am dumber than dirt"

Rob would not tell anyone any such thing. Rob would like to inform the PM and any other interested parties right here and now that the PM has Rob's vote in the bag come election time. Rob takes his imaginary yet dashing hat off and executes the deepest and most respectful of bows to the PM in recognition of the PM's infinite patience, understanding and inspirational ability to give the benefit of the doubt to those whom his humble supporter would cast into outer darkness without a backward glance. Rob also apologises profusely for the uncharacteristic lapse into the third person.

Thank you.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 12, 2009 2:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Hey now, that's actually very kind of you...but, truth is, I guess I meant "gullible as they come!" and I trust you as a close enough friend to let anyone know when necessary.

Cause it's true, and you know it.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 12, 2009 2:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Hey, you must be dirt, because I dig ya!


(yee-ouch...)

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 12, 2009 2:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

i plead to the admin's sensibilities that that comment most certainly warrants forum banishment.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 12, 2009 2:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Be honest, you'd miss me.




Wouldn't you...?

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 12, 2009 3:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

ohhhhhhh... ok :(

i rescind my request for banishment. i guess it is sorta nice to have you around (hmmm, the hint of bile in my throat - what's that all about?)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 12, 2009 4:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Well, bile aftertaste or no, all I can say is you just won't rise (ahem) to my attempts to draw you out (eh...e-u-eiii I think!) today kind sir! I must have left half a dozen jabs at you hereabouts.

All in good fun of course!

Newbie lover...

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 12, 2009 7:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

damn - i hate missing jabs at my expense! my LMA attention has been spotty today, however, that is no excuse. i am disappointed in myself.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 12, 2009 3:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Too much rich eating, mister married man - milk and crackers for you!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 12, 2009 7:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Will you come with me to a town hall meeting? Bring a megaphone and tell them you are there today because of socialized medicine.

Mr Tell told

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 13, 2009 12:56am
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I prefer the Mayor in my town,always polite to me .And he knows how to hold his City Hall good enough so socialized medecine is allowed even for strange customers such as me . Too snobish your U.S.mayors,never been my cup of tea your U.S. are too unfriendly to go tall in your city halls even without a megaphone Some people,I have nothing to tell them .NA!!!

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 13, 2009 2:18am
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In casa the youngster "deadpolitics" can find this: After a night sleep,I'dsay that if my bones were not so old,and had to find a paid job in america I'd fond out how to become a park ranger .Freesbie smile, fare the well!

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Aug 13, 2009 8:43am
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skies... Park Rangers may be the least stressed out people in all of the USA but they still work for the gov't and put up with a lot of bureaucracy (I know certain individuals who have work for the Park Service for upwards of 10 years and still aren't allowed to make decisions on their own even when they are the ones who are most familiar with the areas they are responsible for)...

In any case... thinkin' the fascists may spare me for my exceptional scientific abilities...

On second thoughts, I'm willing to design off the grid renewable energy systems and build composting toilets for anyones compound if me and my girlfriend can dig in with ya... or for a plane ticket across the border...

Can I bring a couple friends who are willing to toil in the fields?

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 13, 2009 9:06am
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Dear youngster : If I had land for you,your lady,and your friends,I'd be so glad to welcome all .If I had the bucks, I'd even send you the tickets so I could meet the younger generation my deadheads friends like to have around .But the human crickets invaded the lands and left me nothing for my gardens .It's a total rip-off situation where I am blackmailed to hand out millions of money I don't have if I ever want to grt my gardens back,in this here world .As I doubt I could ever win with a blind lottery ticket,I suggest you find us a deadhead tycoon to do a landtrust for us all with plenty of acres to roam about and do your stuff , and me too .A lpace for tipies,yurts,in the trees houses , and our own sources of waters to protect . For that ,various sites in Europe could be suitable . I don't know If I could survive long enough to see such a miracle happens,and truthfully American pseudo "authorities" scare me chicken to even ever try to visit you overseas .That't the sort of world this is :we can loose those we care about ,we can even exist never knowing others cared about us, and then we are to old to give another try going places My material body is not that strong eny more ,too much accumulated,and I tire easily except my Spirit always cruising wild .You are as a son I never had and I wish I could have done more for you and your friends, but I just can't .

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Aug 13, 2009 10:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

dead -

If you can beef up a solar panel inverter come on in.

If you can reload rounds for a Barrett .50 cal sniper rifle even better. Those suckers are about $4.70 a round these days.

Course I don't expect to have to shoot more than a couple.......

Seriously, are doing anything with permaculture beyond composting toilets? Mrs. Mando and I have about 400 square feet of intensive raised bed gardens in the backyard and are growing all the veggies we need. And we are bartering for eggs and fruit at the local Farmer's Market with the excess (unless we are giving it away). We are alos putting in a couple of cold frames and hoop houses to see if we can grow year round.

I have about $60K worth of education benefits left on the new Post 9/11 GI Bill and am trying to find some Permaculture certification courses here in Virginia. I'm hoping for about 4 years before the shit hits the fan and the economy collapses before I have to bug out to the Tennessee compound.

Can you imagine Mandojammer sitting in a Political Science class being taught by some snot-nosed, effete and erudite, turtleneck wearing Professor Emeritus? Holy crap would the undergrads get their money's worth.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Aug 13, 2009 11:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Don't know much about inverters other than that they take DC and make AC power... the first units were really rough (square blocks modelling a sin curve) and didn't make high quality power but now they are modelling sin curves with differential equations and the quality of power is greatly increased...

I've taken a few introductory permaculture classes... might get certified if I can come up with the money or time... its a great design philosophy... one that every industry or endeavor could apply to great benefit.

My instructors were certified at The Farm in Tennessee. Maybe you know about the place... old hippie holdover from the early 70s.

Currently tryin' to learn as much as I can about renewable energy but my job is mostly focused on the municipal scale... really would like to get some practical knowledge on cost-effective and perhaps even home-built systems for personal use. Gettin' into alternative building as well...

Lookin' forward to getting out of University, which is mostly a prep school for industry peons, and getting some dirt under my nails... one more year and then watch out, World.

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 13, 2009 11:52am
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I visited The Farm,way back in the early sixties These people were well organized for survival in the boondocks .Very nice and decent group . The reason I could really live with them is because I can't stand religious daily talk .Christians,nor even the hare krishna,whatever else,The same righteous attitude gets on my nerve ,as a lifestyle .Na!

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 16, 2009 2:13am
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PS I must retify a detail :it was in mid 70's I visited the Farm in Tennessee .Much respect for them ,but never liked the religious talk, in daily life .

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Aug 13, 2009 11:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

I know a few folks who certified with people who were Farm "graduates". That's about as close as I've checked into them.

I've been real interested in the growingpower.org model and am trying to figure out a way to scale it. They have a facility in urban Milwaukee that raises enough fruits, vegetables, fish, goats, ducks and turkeys to feed 10,000 people per month. On a 2 acre piece of land.

Absolute genius - the bottom water from the tilapia tanks is pumped into the gardens for fertilizer, the manure from the ducks and turkeys is also used in the gardens as well as composting. The heat from the composting is used to heat the facility.

The best part is that the entire organization is not an enabling one. The food is given away to those who need it, but at the same time, it is almost entirely staffed and operated by people from the Milwaukee area.

Give a man a fish AND teach a man to fish......

How many such facilities do you think could be built with a tenth of the bailout money our Idiocracy in DC has thrown towards the banksters and special interest cronies?

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Aug 13, 2009 10:54am
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I might be worth it to head down there and audit the class you are in just for entertainment - I could think of worse ways to spend my time.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Aug 12, 2009 12:05pm
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I'm just wondering where all the young people (i'm 22) are during all of this? Sure, some of my friends are aware of the situation you have outlined above, but the rest of my generation must be stuck in the mud that is the American Dream. Hello! Wake up to the nightmare! What the **** is gonna happen when all these kids graduate from college and can't get jobs? When are people gonna realize that going through the steps neatly outlined by their advisors will lead to a jack squat?

Myself, I remain hopeful that "green" jobs will help the economy or at least give me a job (I'm studying renewable energy systems). But I'm a skeptic and that is why I am planning on some variation of option 1 and 2, outline above.

I have friends my age who are about to leave the country or have already left, and some that are in the option 1 camp.

Sure you may fight off the hungry and desperate hordes from the cities, but what about when the gov't itself comes for yo ass? Good luck defending against a helicopter...

So, I present to you option 3 (for those that don't want to emigrate). Get a piece of land, get your comrades, grow your own, and develop a meditative practice that invokes an invisibility cloak for when the bad guys come.

On second thoughts, I'll start designing a bunker.

Or maybe I'll just save enough for a plane ticket.

For now, I'll just keep jammin' with 7-7-78 @ Red Rocks...

Good luck, Sisters and Brothers.

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 12, 2009 12:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Sweet child .I can understand your worries about the futures .I have already wondered what youths can still believe in ,in this world ,and sincerely I can't tell .It was somewhat a bit easier for us elders because we believed then ,we could change this world ,standing for new rights,having hopes we could keep our friends ,and earth safer if only we truly cared .But this just doesn't really work forever,so when there is nothing left you have to be you own true friend,because that's the only one who'll be with you every minute of your days and nights,and you have first always to agree with your own spirit being . As for the practical down to earth road,take refuge to have a place to rest so you'll stay in good health . Money ,and careers are not domaines I can give advice about as I never got success on that,so discuss it with worthy friends who don't mislead you where you don't care to know thyself anymore and needing alcohol or vicious ugly habits that could destroy the angel in you .Even bunkers get ruinent with Time .best keep the wind blowing around ,it keeps fresh air also in the mind .Humains are not met to live immorta lives,it is the Law for this planet and no one can prove otherwise,so don't trade your sunshine dreams for bad traps .I don't think you ask about Eternity,but just in case I believe Eternite can find you only if It wants you,perso .I had a spirit of my own, and people wanted to murder it ,many times,but I still survive and while it didn't seem as the grand success to most ,I had to realize my spirit seem to interest a few on the cosmic wires ,and as humans were mostly dreadful bore towards with ,I had to learn to do without their company .A future with other people ,you ask ? If they agree to be decent ,fine ,otherwise it' not worth the bother until the ends of times .Love those who care about you ,do what you think is best for you and yours,and do protect youself from all kind all creepos .You already understood we don't always win about that,so wonder why they spend billions on the hunt !Maybe they know we can survive beyond and they'llnever get that free ticket for themselves ?If consciousness can evolve truly,it can't be done with all ?You'd want their company forever?The Universes ,the galaxies know more than any of us .The problem with humans is like anthills who think there is nothing smarter than them and the'gods" that suit them . LIFE decided here to be plants ,animals,oceans,it's own creations,good,bad,ugly,we don't have to approve,and for the clean-up,tell Big Mamma and her mates to do the jobs themselves,I already quit !!!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 12, 2009 7:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

YEAH!

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 16, 2009 1:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

So you are on vacation or what,NC ?Where is you political forum now ? can't see NC on GD forum for days ; you got a cramp in the head, maybe ?I real got mad at you ,really believed a moment you were scam rip-off in nigeria! AND a creepo selling deadheads to a beurk govt . AND hating women till murder !I got pissed off someone like that could be allowed to jive on GD forum . Outside of that a sweet jdingowlin got me best answer s to hear GD music and cruise on archive at the same time . It's blasting fun!!!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 25, 2009 8:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

So you are on vacation or what,NC ?

No, I went on vacation jsut before July 4th. Already back and planning a another road trip.

Where is you political forum now ? can't see NC on GD forum for days ; you got a cramp in the head, maybe ?

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I real got mad at you ,really believed a moment you were scam rip-off in nigeria!

So where is the money I asked for?

AND a creepo selling deadheads to a beurk govt .

Bjork Government?

AND hating women till murder !

You got me on this one, I always hate them right up to the homicide, but I love them afterwards.

I got pissed off someone like that could be allowed to jive on GD forum .

I am alive and free to jive.

Outside of that a sweet jdingowlin got me best answer s to hear GD music and cruise on archive at the same time . It's blasting fun!!!

YEAH!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Aug 12, 2009 6:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Well said. I keep hearing the same thing and almost from both sides. Not much defending of either "side" of the two party system, just a lot of voting for the lesser of two evils. Neither side gives a shit about any of us when it comes down to it.

The republicans made a mockery of the only true conservative, who happens to not be a fundamental religious nut and who wants to legalize marijuana. He has made me doubt the point of having our troops in the middle of a hornet's nest of a death cult in the middle east. Part of me still wants to see ICBM's rain down on the taliban but I see our border, my job and other things as higher priorities right. Instead of a strict constituionalist who supports everyone's pursuit of civil liberty, we got stuck with a 10:1 long shot whose best days were 40 years ago. There was no way he could have one and yet miraculously he became the repub nominee? Looking back I find that hard to believe.

The democrats supplanted the most experienced, capable and most popular person with a street level chicago style politician who came out of no where with all kinds of amazing baggage that no one seemed to care about.

We were all played like suckers and if what I think is happening is really happening, I think there is a chance for real change and not some bumber sticker slogan full of hot air. I thought the ron paul people were a cult or a bunch of pranksters because the left and right painted him with kookoo brush and the fat old fashioned elephants still have some kind of problem with weed for some fucking stupid reason even though alcohol is legal... it makes no sense.

And as for the AR-15 vs AK, as much as love made in the USA the AR is waaaay too expensive and high maintenance for serious post apocalyptic use. I have a norinco, cheap chinese AK and it is literally made of about a dozen parts and can be stripped down and reassembled in about a minute and I am not in the army.

I watched that crash course and most of it brings to light what I kinda knew was coming and I think it will happen in my life time. I think mother nature has a way to mend the sickness that is us, she always does. Shit, you can obliterate 99% of life on this planet with a friggin meteor the size of manhattan and amazing critters stir and create a completely new ecosystem. I am not religious but the sky pilots seem to think the big one is coming. The secular folks are not debating that. Everyone agrees that climate change is happening, regardless of which way the mercury is going and who is inserting the thermometer where. It all boils down to shit hitting the fan one way or another. I know glenn beck is hated by some on here but he had a show a while back that went through a whole list of possible calamities, each by itself enough to cause serious trouble for us a species. If these things all occur, hyperinflation, water shortages, and human dysfunction, etc, at the same time there will not be a fan big enough for shit to hit.

So unless the 13th emam and jesus get off the same ufo and tell us this has been a test of the emergency broadcast system, I am afraid by the time the rest of the world wakes up it will be too late to stop genocide, war, famine and riots in the streets as oil, water, food and safety become scarce.

All I can say is that I am glad I have enough bullets to make it the supermarket right next door and get enough canned goods and seed packets to get me started on my venture north to the mountains of VA or somewhere to ride this out. Having been through a month without power and two hurricane hits and watching water coming through stress cracks in my door from 100 mile per hour winds tought me how to cook with cologne, barter for beer and defend my property and neighbors when tempers started flaring. I also played my share of dungeons and dragons so I should be able to defeat most wandering bugbears and bands of hobgoblin raiders.

But seriously folks... the point is that if we do not wisen up and get our shit together now, planet earth is going to shake us off like a dog after a flea bath and only the smartest and most resourceful of us will survive. Evolution will continue and unfortunately the elderly, the children and the less intelligent people will be culled from the herd leaving the fit, the prepared and the survivors left to pick up the pieces. My salesman mantra has my positive mental attitude thinking that I will be in that group (hopefully) but it's still a disconcerning hypothesis. What will we do without google? Now that is scary...

Oh and someone just stole all my guns for the record. Just drove away with them all. A blue pickup truck headed north. Oh well... I am pouring out the bottle water and donating the canned goods too... I am ready to conform now.

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Poster: Solo Head Date: Aug 12, 2009 8:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

...and I thought I had to much free time! WTF are you guys talking about? GO TO THE BEACH...NOW!

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Aug 13, 2009 5:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

OK I read most of the thread. Highly entertaining.

I sure am glad I had this tasty AUD to listen to whilst reading:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1979-08-13.nak700.goetz.33583.sbeok.flac16

It only has one review - not sure why as it really is a nice recording of a good show.

Oh and Mr. Mando, not sure which group I'm in but I'll grow the garlic and give sailing lessons (provided there is a lake).

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Aug 13, 2009 8:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Deal. BTW - what group did you think you were in as you are most certainly one of the aforementioned cretins.

We are about 2 miles from Cordell Hull Dam Lake. Or the lake formed by the Cordell Hull Dam.

Whatever.

It's deep and wide, and it has largemouth bass. I'm now trying to figure out how to build a portable, solar powered submarine.

This post was modified by Mandojammer on 2009-08-13 15:23:10

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Poster: billydlions Date: Aug 12, 2009 9:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Capitalism will prevail Mr. Earl. Burro futures are now up 50%. Goldman is long 500 April contracts.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Aug 12, 2009 12:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

StochRSI, MACD and ADX are all topped and turning down on long charts - your pop is all the suckers buying tickets for seat in the caboose being pulled by an engine that has gone off the cliff.

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Aug 12, 2009 9:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

"Ah Government! The bludgeoning of The People, by The People, for The People..." - Oscar Wilde